Comments on: Strange Bedfellows? http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/2008/11/19/strange-bedfellows/ Just another WordPress weblog Tue, 01 Jun 2010 06:41:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: keith moller http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/2008/11/19/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-1050 keith moller Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:04:13 +0000 http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/?p=47#comment-1050 On this site they are trying to create a NATIONAL GAY DAY. may 15, where they would not work, shop etc. please read the front page here www.adaywithoutagay On this site they are trying to create a

NATIONAL GAY DAY. may 15, where they would not work, shop etc.

please read the front page here

http://www.adaywithoutagay

]]> By: keith moller http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/2008/11/19/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-1049 keith moller Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:58:42 +0000 http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/?p=47#comment-1049 That above websit did not work. this one does www.adaywithoutagay.com That above websit did not work.

this one does http://www.adaywithoutagay.com

]]> By: keith moller http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/2008/11/19/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-1047 keith moller Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:55:39 +0000 http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/?p=47#comment-1047 I just saw the news with gays fighting for their rights. It was called a day with out a gay, i think they said their website was http://adaywithoutagay.com I felt sickend by the way the guy acted like a girl and i think we need a more crass aproach to this growing and out of control problem in our nation. I also feel sickened by the amount of meth use that there is in our youths. Some sins are more devastating to our nation than others. I know the lord wants us to treat everyone with love but he also needs action . I just saw the news with gays fighting for their rights. It was called a day with out a gay, i think they said their website was http://adaywithoutagay.com I felt sickend by the way the guy acted like a girl and i think we need a more crass aproach to this growing and out of control problem in our nation. I also feel sickened by the amount of meth use that there is in our youths. Some sins are more devastating to our nation than others.
I know the lord wants us to treat everyone with love but he also needs action .

]]> By: Heidi Esterbrook http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/2008/11/19/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-1021 Heidi Esterbrook Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:29:54 +0000 http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/?p=47#comment-1021 thank you mandie for the extra insight, your first comment didnt say in ministry.... i agree... so we are on the same page.... i just pray that all of those who have a heart for this group of individuals stay humble and open to ministering to them... blessings, heidi thank you mandie for the extra insight, your first comment didnt say in ministry…. i agree… so we are on the same page…. i just pray that all of those who have a heart for this group of individuals stay humble and open to ministering to them…

blessings,
heidi

]]> By: Mandie http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/2008/11/19/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-1015 Mandie Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:13:58 +0000 http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/?p=47#comment-1015 Heidi, I am not saying that they should not be allowed in the church. I agree that they need to be there. BUT, I feel that they should not be allowed to be in front of the church, they should be in the congregation only to be feed and ultimately decide where their true convivtions lie. If we allow them to represent the church in any way, we are saying that their lifestyle is ok with us. Greg even said in a sermon recently that homosexuals did not have a right to be in the church. I don't think he meant that they should not come, but they should not be able to participate in Communion, Ministry Moments, singing or whatever else puts them in front of the church. Heidi,
I am not saying that they should not be allowed in the church. I agree that they need to be there. BUT, I feel that they should not be allowed to be in front of the church, they should be in the congregation only to be feed and ultimately decide where their true convivtions lie. If we allow them to represent the church in any way, we are saying that their lifestyle is ok with us. Greg even said in a sermon recently that homosexuals did not have a right to be in the church. I don’t think he meant that they should not come, but they should not be able to participate in Communion, Ministry Moments, singing or whatever else puts them in front of the church.

]]> By: Keith http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/2008/11/19/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-1007 Keith Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:13:20 +0000 http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/?p=47#comment-1007 Yes Rene and Clay, The lord Truly has his hand on and has blessed Greg, the pastors and staff and i am sure there will be great places for them in heaven. Their accountability is huge and they do not have an easy job at times. I am sure it can be over whelming but the lord is very good. I tell the lighthouse story all the time to clients and people I meet. It is a good witnessing tool. Greg is a rock star in Gods eyes i am sure. And i hear people rave about how blessed and tallented he is all the time, even people that dont go to our church, we are all very proud to be part of the coolest church in town !!!! with... the coolest pastors !!! Those letters and emails were written by people and our faith is not in people. Again, God bless you guys for such dedication, hard work and commitment to our lord and church. Yes Rene and Clay,

The lord Truly has his hand on and has blessed Greg, the pastors and staff and i am sure there will be great places for them in heaven. Their accountability is huge and they do not have an easy job at times. I am sure it can be over whelming but the lord is very good. I tell the lighthouse story all the time to clients and people I meet. It is a good witnessing tool.

Greg is a rock star in Gods eyes i am sure. And i hear people rave about how blessed and tallented he is all the time, even people that dont go to our church, we are all very proud to be part of the coolest church in town !!!!
with… the coolest pastors !!!

Those letters and emails were written by people and our faith is not in people.

Again, God bless you guys for such dedication, hard work and commitment to our lord and church.

]]> By: Keith http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/2008/11/19/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-1005 Keith Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:42:03 +0000 http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/?p=47#comment-1005 I agree to a point. As christians we need to set an example of love and forgiveness and be non judgmental, BUT, they need to know what they are doing is wrong and repent. To think it is o.k. or they may think, god made me this way or have some excuse. This is not accepteable. If they do not repent in a reasonable time period, the procedure would be to confront the person with the sin, if they dont repent you go to the church and the church should talk to them. If they dont repent again they should be shunned from the church. I am pretty sure that active homosexuals would be asked to leave the church if they refuse to repent. [ THIS IS MY OPINION ] Yes, we are all sinners but as christians we must try to live our lives by the bible the way our lord has asked us to live our lives. In the old testimate you would not want to be a homosexual. Two angels destroyed sodom and gomora because the city was out of control with homosexuality and other sin and i believe turned lots wife into a pillar of salt for just looking back at the city when told not to. I believe it was considered an abomination and homosexuals were actually stoned to DEATH. I BELIEVE that is in Genisis. Also i believe homosexuality is talked about in the 1st chapter of Romans. I think the bible sais that homosexuality is so bad it actually twists the flesh. What ever that means. By any means you do not want to change the glory of the truth of God into a lie. I am not very good with scripture so dont quote me on anything. I think that one day San Francisco might just fall off into the ocean and i think you all know what i mean by that !! I think banning gay marriage would be a very good start. Our country was founded on christian principles and there are alot of bad lawyers and people trying to change that by taking the ten commandments out of parks, legalizing gay marriage, the list goes on and on. Our country needs to STICK to christian principles. I agree to a point. As christians we need to set an example of love and forgiveness and be non judgmental, BUT, they need to know what they are doing is wrong and repent. To think it is o.k. or they may think, god made me this way or have some excuse. This is not accepteable. If they do not repent in a reasonable time period, the procedure would be to confront the person with the sin, if they dont repent you go to the church and the church should talk to them. If they dont repent again they should be shunned from the church. I am pretty sure that active homosexuals would be asked to leave the church if they refuse to repent. [ THIS IS MY OPINION ] Yes, we are all sinners but as christians we must try to live our lives by the bible the way our lord has asked us to live our lives. In the old testimate you would not want to be a homosexual. Two angels destroyed sodom and gomora because the city was out of control with homosexuality and other sin and i believe turned lots wife into a pillar of salt for just looking back at the city when told not to. I believe it was considered an abomination and homosexuals were actually stoned to DEATH. I BELIEVE that is in Genisis. Also i believe homosexuality is talked about in the 1st chapter of Romans. I think the bible sais that homosexuality is so bad it actually twists the flesh. What ever that means. By any means you do not want to change the glory of the truth of God into a lie. I am not very good with scripture so dont quote me on anything.

I think that one day San Francisco might just fall off into the ocean and i think you all know what i mean by that !!

I think banning gay marriage would be a very good start. Our country was founded on christian principles and there are alot of bad lawyers and people trying to change that by taking the ten commandments out of parks, legalizing gay marriage, the list goes on and on. Our country needs to STICK to christian principles.

]]> By: Heidi Esterbrook http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/2008/11/19/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-988 Heidi Esterbrook Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:36:23 +0000 http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/?p=47#comment-988 typo.... dine, not sine..... and...do, not so.... sorry! typo…. dine, not sine…..

and…do, not so…. sorry!

]]> By: Heidi Esterbrook http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/2008/11/19/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-987 Heidi Esterbrook Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:35:05 +0000 http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/?p=47#comment-987 im sorry but why wouldnt they belong, they are in a place that they can hear the truth, we should rejoice, not exclude... not ban them from entering.... you never know what is said, what is expressed, and who would reach out and their hearts might be turned.... god can work, dont limit him by excluding those that might be disgusting to you.... god loves them and wants them in a place that they might here him. he would sine with them, heal them, and have fellowship to give them the opportunity to really see his love and grace... how can we be so pious to say we cant so the same. im sorry but why wouldnt they belong, they are in a place that they can hear the truth, we should rejoice, not exclude… not ban them from entering…. you never know what is said, what is expressed, and who would reach out and their hearts might be turned…. god can work, dont limit him by excluding those that might be disgusting to you…. god loves them and wants them in a place that they might here him. he would sine with them, heal them, and have fellowship to give them the opportunity to really see his love and grace… how can we be so pious to say we cant so the same.

]]> By: Mandie http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/2008/11/19/strange-bedfellows/comment-page-1/#comment-980 Mandie Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:44:50 +0000 http://blogs.lighthousecf.org/licksandriffs/?p=47#comment-980 But just because we ban gay marriages (even if the church could, we seem to have so little say anymore) does not mean that homosexuality would cease to exsist. They would still be there and crying to everyone that their equal rights were taken away from them. I am NOT defending them in anyway, I totaly agree with you, but that is what would happen. You could not force them to be with someone of the opposite sex. My sister saw so much of it when she was at Twin Falls High School. And she has even seen some of those kids in our church! Being a part of ministry moments and everything. She was sickened by it. These kids claim to be bi sexuals and homosexuals at school and then show up at Lighthouse on Sundays like they belong. WOW! But just because we ban gay marriages (even if the church could, we seem to have so little say anymore) does not mean that homosexuality would cease to exsist. They would still be there and crying to everyone that their equal rights were taken away from them. I am NOT defending them in anyway, I totaly agree with you, but that is what would happen. You could not force them to be with someone of the opposite sex. My sister saw so much of it when she was at Twin Falls High School. And she has even seen some of those kids in our church! Being a part of ministry moments and everything. She was sickened by it. These kids claim to be bi sexuals and homosexuals at school and then show up at Lighthouse on Sundays like they belong. WOW!

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